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Poster: adks12020 Date: Oct 24, 2011 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Too faithful fan base

There are most definitely people that think anything the Grateful Dead played was amazing. I am definitely not in that camp. You don't have to be a Grateful Dead scholar to notice when they were off...some shows are pretty much unlistenable in the mid 80s and late 90s.

Personally I think it's pretty easy to be listening to a lackluster show and think "wow, this is total crap" and I'm always surprised that people who have listened to, or seen, the Dead often can't, or won't, notice the difference.

Unfortunately I'm not old enough to have seen the dead in their prime but I feel the same way about bands I see now that I absolutely love. If I go to a show and the playing isn't on point I definitely notice. Do I let it ruin my good time? No, I generally don't unless its a total trainwreck because someone is too wasted or something. I enjoy the good parts and deal with the rest but I've definitely walked out of shows saying "damn, they were so off tonight...but there were a few good tunes"

Basically, the Grateful Dead are my favorite band, despite my age, but everyone that listens to them a lot has to know that sometimes the playing sucked and that doesn't take anything away from their legacy or their talent. Shit happens when you party too much....like sloppy playing and terrible setlist choices. If some fans want to ignore that, that's their decision, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 24, 2011 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Too faithful fan base

if they didn't suck sometimes, it would mean that they weren't pushing the envelope. when you experiment like they did, it's just not possible to sound great all the time.

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Poster: adks12020 Date: Oct 24, 2011 4:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Too faithful fan base

no argument here...that's part of the improvising game..but you have to admit that sometimes it had nothing to do with pushing the envelope and a lot to do with being burned out or high as hell

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 24, 2011 4:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Too faithful fan base

"but you have to admit that sometimes it had nothing to do with pushing the envelope and a lot to do with being burned out or high as hell"

absolutely. unfortunately, that can be said about a significant part of the music after 1977. jerry still flourished with his side projects, but he clearly wasn't as focused on the grateful dead as he was the first 10 years. a bad day for jerry, meant a bad day for the whole band. and as his addiction worsened, those days became more frequent.

This post was modified by rdenirojb87 on 2011-10-24 23:40:09